Why does the Catholic Church proclaim itself infallible?


The real question is, why would Jesus create an institution, and then not give it the mechanism to stay on course?

So, Christ instituted a Church.  Christ also gathered disciples, many of which he sent out to evangelize, two by two.  Christ taught them well, don’t you think?  Do you think they weren’t human? Do you think they couldn’t get something wrong, and spread the wrong thing?  On their own, of course they could.  But Christ not only taught them well, he sent them out with the gift of the Holy Spirit, and they were able to proclaim the Good News.  Inerrantly.  Does this mean they knew what the weather was going to be, that they didn’t have human emotions, that they were more or less than human?  In the words of St. Paul, Of course not!  Christ gave his disciples, those he appointed by laying hands on them, the Holy Spirit to keep them from straying off course.  He also promised them this gift going forward, to be given to those who followed them.  Christ knew the apostles wouldn’t live forever-by human nature, because of the Fall, and because other humans didn’t want that message being sent out.  He gave the gift to the office, so that, when the man, the apostle or bishop, exercised his office, he would have the gift.  When he was operating in another way, or position, say as a person with his family or friends, the authority of the office wouldn’t be present.

I know, my Reformationist friends think that our doctrines are wrong.  They disagree with many of them.  But if they would agree that Christ was never wrong, that he gave this charism to his apostles, when they imparted the faith, and that this gift was meant to pass on to their successors, I don’t know how they can say the Church is wrong, and that they are correct.  They weren’t expressly given the gift of laying on of hands.  I wrote a post a long while back theorizing about when St. Paul actually became an apostle, because I believe (though it’s not necessarily taught by the Church) that it requires that hands be laid by someone who’s had hands laid on them.  I think St. Paul had hands laid on him by Peter in Jerusalem.  Not that it really matters, it’s a small thing.  But the laying on of hands imparts the gifts of the spirit to those being ordained.

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7 thoughts on “Why does the Catholic Church proclaim itself infallible?

  1. Care to tell us why you feel that way? It’s very easy to say “No it isn’t”, but unless you have some reasoned answer, there’s nothing here.

  2. If the Church does not have the sole authority, then why did Jesus say, “He who hears you, hears me. He who rejects you, rejects me and the Father who sent me.” 🙂

  3. It is perfectly clear to anyone that it is very high arrogance indeed when an organisation such as catholicism claims infallibility..
    regardless of whether they are sat down or stood up.
    A reality check is need by the ‘ Whore of babylon ‘ I think !!!

  4. Anyone but the 1/6th of the world that’s Catholic. I think it’s arrogant on your part to think you know better than God.

    Finally, I say to you, let him who is without sin cast the first stone…

  5. For obvious reasons I do not think I know nmore than God..
    It is the babylonian whore of catholicism, that think they know something that God does not,
    with your practices….
    Has any catholic told God about purgatory yet.??

  6. Well, you do think you know better than God, when you reject His teachings.

    What Catholics know, and trust God to show us, is His way. We know what God has given us, thanks be to Him. Regarding Purgatory, God revealed it to us. Several places, please read up on that. It’s demonstrated in Maccabees. Oh, wait, you reject that one because it plainly shows praying for those who died imperfect.

    Matt. 5:26,18:34; Luke 12:58-59 – Jesus teaches us, “Come to terms with your opponent or you will be handed over to the judge and thrown into prison. You will not get out until you have paid the last penny.” The word “opponent” (antidiko) is likely a reference to the devil (see the same word for devil in 1 Pet. 5:8) who is an accuser against man (c.f. Job 1.6-12; Zech. 3.1; Rev. 12.10), and God is the judge. If we have not adequately dealt with satan and sin in this life, we will be held in a temporary state called a prison, and we won’t get out until we have satisfied our entire debt to God. This “prison” is purgatory where we will not get out until the last penny is paid.

    Matt. 5:48 – Jesus says, “be perfect, even as your heavenly Father is perfect.” We are only made perfect through purification, and in Catholic teaching, this purification, if not completed on earth, is continued in a transitional state we call purgatory.

    Matt. 12:32 – Jesus says, “And anyone who says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but no one who speaks against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven either in this world or in the next.” Jesus thus clearly provides that there is forgiveness after death. The phrase “in the next” (from the Greek “en to mellonti”) generally refers to the afterlife (see, for example, Mark 10.30; Luke 18.30; 20.34-35; Eph. 1.21 for similar language). Forgiveness is not necessary in heaven, and there is no forgiveness in hell. This proves that there is another state after death, and the Church for 2,000 years has called this state purgatory.

    Luke 12:47-48 – when the Master comes (at the end of time), some will receive light or heavy beatings but will live. This state is not heaven or hell, because in heaven there are no beatings, and in hell we will no longer live with the Master.

    Luke 16:19-31 – in this story, we see that the dead rich man is suffering but still feels compassion for his brothers and wants to warn them of his place of suffering. But there is no suffering in heaven or compassion in hell because compassion is a grace from God and those in hell are deprived from God’s graces for all eternity. So where is the rich man? He is in purgatory.

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